That's a great cover.

The rest of them? Yeeesh.

I liked the Vision one.

The other one was kind of lame, mostly because of the way the Skrulls were drawn, but the 'Approved by the Cosmic Code Authority' thing was pretty funny.

I liked the Vision one.

The other one was kind of lame, mostly because of the way the Skrulls were drawn, but the 'Approved by the Cosmic Code Authority' thing was pretty funny.

Yeah, I forgot about the Vision one. Pretty decent, but boring.

That Ms. Marvel one is one of the flat-out ugliest covers I have ever seen.

It's like Horn meets Liefeld.

Today's Horn image (http://bp3.blogger.com/_KH2NAZDOWoM/R9rPvwMAmkI/AAAAAAAAHEA/BShX_ZRTm0M/s1600-h/WDYT_Doom.jpg).

Secret Invasion Panel @ WWLA. (http://www.newsarama.com/WWLA/08/Marvel/secretinvasion.html)

Secret Invasion: Revelations #3 (http://comics.ign.com/articles/859/859515p1.html)

This is going to be the cover to Secret Invasion #3

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/859/859515/secret-invasion-20080313041512275.jpg

When I look at it, it looks like it has that Eve and the temptation of the snake vibe going (with Tony being Eve and Spider-Woman being the snake). I don't know if that's what they're going for, but with Spider-Woman "wrapped" around that tree and trying to seduce Tony...

Secret Invasion Panel @ WWLA. (http://www.newsarama.com/WWLA/08/Marvel/secretinvasion.html)

I see from the cover of SI: FF that Lyja is back. The question is, is she fighting the Torch because she's siding with the Skrulls or because the Torch is a Skrull, and she's still aligned with the FF? If it's the former, how interesting would it be if she was posing as Sue Richards (she posed as Alicia Masters originally for years, so she'd know Sue pretty well to pose as her)?

I haven't been following Annihilation, so this might not make sense at all, but...

Is it likely or even possible that the Skrulls could already have taken over the Kree from inside the way they're trying to on Earth?

Some WWLA comments have me thinking this might be the case.

I haven't been following Annihilation, so this might not make sense at all, but...

Is it likely or even possible that the Skrulls could already have taken over the Kree from inside the way they're trying to on Earth?

Some WWLA comments have me thinking this might be the case.
Considering how their war has carried on for centuries, you would think they would've tried something like that by now.

Ah.

"Is the Infinity Guantlet or the Beyonder going to play a role in Secret Invasion?"

"No for the Beyonder," McCann said.

"What about the Guantlet?"

".. any other questions?" McCann sighed.

Ah.
The Illuminati having the Infinity Gems will play a role in this. There's no doubt in my mind.

The Illuminati having the Infinity Gems will play a role in this. There's no doubt in my mind.

Absolutely.

I guess this should have been posted. Here's the Secret Invasion cover gallery.

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=149844

http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/secretinvasion/SecretInvasion01_Yu.jpg

http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/secretinvasion/SecretInvasion01_McNivenCover.jpg

http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/secretinvasion/SecretInvasion01_Cover.jpg

I'm really enjoying the logo, I gotta say. It has that olde schoole b-movie look to it.

From Wizard L.A.

Gage then talked about his four issues of Thunderbolts, repeating that in his first issue a major Marvel character will be revealed as a Skrull and go after the Thunderbolts.

http://www.newsarama.com/WWLA/08/Marvel/Mondo/tbolts121_cov.jpg


Draw your own conclusions on that. I hope Marvel does the right thing here though. Honestly the only things I would hate to lose are that one issue of Spectacular where Osborn and Peter Parker are trapped in an elevator together and the first arc of The Pulse.

From Wizard L.A.

Gage then talked about his four issues of Thunderbolts, repeating that in his first issue a major Marvel character will be revealed as a Skrull and go after the Thunderbolts.

http://www.newsarama.com/WWLA/08/Marvel/Mondo/tbolts121_cov.jpg


That's the cover for T-Bolts #121, though, which is written by Ellis.

Does anyone else think Secret Invasion may have the Beast be returning back to his ape form? IE the new form turns out to be a Skrull?

Does anyone else think Secret Invasion may have the Beast be returning back to his ape form? IE the new form turns out to be a Skrull?

There's a SI special that will feature among its stars the ape Beast, so it would appear there is at least one impostor running around (unless the thing takes place in the past, which would make sense, come to think of it).

I tought beast transformed on panel. that would be hard to use as a replacement point and id hate to lose the great work morrison did with him.

I tought beast transformed on panel. that would be hard to use as a replacement point and id hate to lose the great work morrison did with him.

90% of the time I feel that Marvel undid all of Morrison's X-Men work unnecessarily. But this is one thing I would like to see change.

Didn't Beast's transformation happen in Claremont's X-Treme X-Men thing?

That's the cover for T-Bolts #121, though, which is written by Ellis.

Well its the cover they showed.

I tought beast transformed on panel. that would be hard to use as a replacement point and id hate to lose the great work morrison did with him.

As I recall, Beast was just different in Morrison's New X-men. We didn't see anything as far as when or where he changed that I recall, not even a flashback. He just shows up secondary mutation already in effect.

Huh. Forgot about that.

I stopped by Barnes and Noble and read Secret War again today.

I have a thought (after reading this weeks Mighty Avengers).

Could Marvel be experiencing a "time warp" where the Shrulls keep going back into time replacing Marvel heroes until they win?

Where did they get the time machine? Doom or Reed.

It seems that Spider-man kept having flashbacks in Secret War. The flashback could still be happening to the character (Civil War where he revels his identity, One More Day where he loses his wife).

Also... Bendis did a great job at showing us why villians keep seeking super-heroes for "revenge". He did a great job at explaining how most of the stories from the 1970's and 1980's fit into today's comics. Secret War is much better than I remember. It will be very important to the current story line.

ok. its telegraphed in X-Treme. Its the issue (3 i think) after Pyslocke is killed. Beast is injured and sage is going to jumpstart his mutation. Theres a panel of ape beast draw with a ghostly outline of cat beast. Sage things" That Ghostly Image could that be the shape of whats to come?" It doesnt happen in the pages though, the issue ends his time in the book but he still look ape-y. Next appearance is 114 in cat form. So i guess it would be possible. But Sage's vision shows that what he would turn into, why he didnt do it immediately i dont really understand.

Didn't Bendis want to get the 70s style Beast back in House of M? I think the new Beast will probably be revealed as a Skrull to get that version back.

From Wizard L.A.

Gage then talked about his four issues of Thunderbolts, repeating that in his first issue a major Marvel character will be revealed as a Skrull and go after the Thunderbolts.

http://www.newsarama.com/WWLA/08/Marvel/Mondo/tbolts121_cov.jpg


Draw your own conclusions on that. I hope Marvel does the right thing here though. Honestly the only things I would hate to lose are that one issue of Spectacular where Osborn and Peter Parker are trapped in an elevator together and the first arc of The Pulse.

What issue number was the Osborn and Peter stuck in a elevator?, sounds like a interesting read

Could Marvel be experiencing a "time warp" where the Shrulls keep going back into time replacing Marvel heroes until they win?

Where did they get the time machine? Doom or Reed.


There's gotta be a reason there's 8 issues or something, right?

And that would qualify as one of the "big universe changing things"

And there is a Time Gem... which is held by Namor.

Who was acting suspicious by killing the Uber Skrulls, and was the first to suggest splitting up, rather than collaborating in light of the invasion.

Captured heroes can be trapped in a timeloop, per Wiki, which could explain where some heroes go (although I'm hoping they're kept in "42" via VR constraints to see how they'd react to scenarios)

http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/showthread.php?t=144779


Brian’s already let me read the first three issues of SECRET INVASION, which is Marvel Comics’ big summer dust-up.

After COUNTDOWN and CIVIL WAR, I was going to take a break from these big summer crossover thingies. But this SECRET INVASION...holy shit.

This is not a big, disposable, multi-issue donnybrook. This is a blitzkrieg from page one. Bendis basically worked out a remorseless, nothing-but-business tearing down of the Marvel Universe. And it’s clear the story has been set up...for...years. And the deaths are treated so off-handedly, with no appeal or remorse -- and this is three issues in.

So far, each issue has also ended with a shit-your-pants, ’Wait, what in the FUCK?!" moment...after, of course, about three or four what-the-fuck moments tossed off during the course of each story. As it stands right now, someone’s holding a possible key to stopping the Skrulls, and it’s the LAST person in the Marvel Universe you’d want with that info. And no, it’s not Dr. Doom.


Thoughts?

http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/showthread.php?t=144779



Thoughts?

Marvel Boy?

Although whether or not he's someone you wouldn't want to have it I guess kinda depends on how he's written in those first few issues.

Marvel Boy?

Although whether or not he's someone you wouldn't want to have it I guess kinda depends on how he's written in those first few issues.

Good thought.

Other candidates I've seen online:

Sentry
Purple Man
Red Skrull
Wanda

I'm so hyped for this, I still have some doubts but its all looking good to me.

Motherfucker.I'm getting this in singles.

This will be the first comic I buy in singles since Civil War ended. Damn you Bendis!

don't know if this has been posted yet, but this was in the June solicits for Avengers Inititive
http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/June08/monday/avn_theint_14.jpgGuess I was wrong huh?

http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/showthread.php?t=144779



Thoughts?

At first I thought Thanos, for some reason.

I mean, yeah, the dude's dead, but so what else is new.

At first I thought Thanos, for some reason.

I mean, yeah, the dude's dead, but so what else is new.

Definitely not the right feel for this series, though. I mean, yeah, it's a cosmic level threat but it's a very real world point of view. I'd say focus on those connected to the NA/Mighty cast and you'll find much better possibilities.

http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/showthread.php?t=144779


Thoughts?

Aunt May. The Skrull Empire's one weakness is wheatcakes.

At first I thought Thanos, for some reason.

I mean, yeah, the dude's dead, but so what else is new.

I'm thinking Kang.

I'm thinking Kang.

Why is time travel any kind of solution?

Why is time travel any kind of solution?

You could cut the invasion off before it happens I would think.

You could cut the invasion off before it happens I would think.

Well........do you agree that those replaced have been doing/ saying all the right things? Sure they've probably been doing other stuff too, but if they're a hero then they've been doing the hero thing. Helping beat the bad guys (probably an ulterior motive to that, but still), saving lives, all that, right? To keep up appearances and to not let Earth get destroyed or taken over by someone that is not the Skrulls. So if you go back in time and cut off the Invasion (yes, the same one that you have no way of really knowing where it began or where it changed from being one of many plots to being the only real plot to go with), then you've changed the present in any number of ways. You follow? If Beast is fake and you go back in time and somehow clobber the Skrull that would become fake Beast (do you know where the real Beast is or no?) then who is there to do all the things that the Beast did to create the present we have now?

*sigh* the things this computer makes me say....

Well........do you agree that those replaced have been doing/ saying all the right things? Sure they've probably been doing other stuff too, but if they're a hero then they've been doing the hero thing. Helping beat the bad guys (probably an ulterior motive to that, but still), saving lives, all that, right? To keep up appearances and to not let Earth get destroyed or taken over by someone that is not the Skrulls. So if you go back in time and cut off the Invasion (yes, the same one that you have no way of really knowing where it began or where it changed from being one of many plots to being the only real plot to go with), then you've changed the present in any number of ways. You follow? If Beast is fake and you go back in time and somehow clobber the Skrull that would become fake Beast (do you know where the real Beast is or no?) then who is there to do all the things that the Beast did to create the present we have now?

*sigh* the things this computer makes me say....

Holy shit, I wasn't the one that brought up Kang. Just spitballin.

It must suck to have a computer that makes you do things. ;)

Holy shit, I wasn't the one that brought up Kang. Just spitballin.

It must suck to have a computer that makes you do things. ;)

A poor craftsman blames his tools, I know. But that's my thinking on why you can't fix this through time travel or anything like that for those who want a quick fix via Infinity Gems or Scarlet Witch. Matter of fact, I don't know if there is a way to fix this. Might just have to be Earth + Skrulls from now on. :)

Here's an interview about Secret Invasion: Inhumans. (http://comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=13399)

Something to consider..

Marvel's has a tendency lately to "go all out" with their characters when they know they have an out on the horizon.

Spidey's new costume -> unmasking -> Mephisto
Cap losing CW -> getting killed -> Bucky taking over the role
Hulk -> WWH -> New Hulk(?)

Any other examples?

The reason I bring it up, is there's obviously a plan in place for a post-SI world.

Does anyone forsee a "reset switch" on the horizon? Not to bring up the whole "616/Ultimate" thing again, but the Ultimate U seems to be building towards something big. Both projects were announced a year or so in advance. SI launches in April for 8 issues (all on time). Ultimatum launches in May for 6 issues. Both will end within a month or so of each other. SI is mentioned during Ultimatum's early hype. There's mention of the ending of Ultimate Power laying the groundwork for Ultimatum (which involved a character crossing universes)

Now to be extra paranoid, there's a younger looking Spidey in an upcoming Spidey arc.
Although, to be fair, that's in June, which is in the middle of both storyarcs, and unlikely to be a switch.

Could the Ultimate U be destroyed as promised? Could they dump the Skrulls on that universe? In FF, there's another world being prepared, which could house the Ultimate U if need be. There's also Counter Earth to dump the Skrulls on.

I can't see the 616 dumping Skrulls on the Ultimate Universe, although the irony of that Universe facing two Skrull invasions would be a weird bookend to the universe.

Anyways, this is not a serious theory, but just noting some odd timing for both series.

Possible spoilers in the June Marvel solicitations (FF/Secret Invasion/"Who's the Skrull?")

Looks like the Skrull is Sue based on the attached description
http://marvel.com/comics/onsale/covers/uploaded/0.476236001205851488image_small.jpg (javascript:MM_openBrWindow('/comics/onsale/lib/view2.htm?filename=/comics/onsale/covers/0608/SECINVAFF002.jpg','_blank','scrollbars=yes,resizab le=yes'))
Rating: RATED A SECRET INVASION: FANTASTIC FOUR # 2 (http://marvel.com/catalog/?id=8939)
The Story: Part Two [of Three]: "He's Just Not That Into You"
Trapped in the Negative Zone with Franklin and Val, beseiged by monsters, Ben and Johnny are scrambling to get back home before a cosmic anomoly with the power to consume, well, everything swallows Manhattan. But the team's biggest brain, Reed Richards, is nowhere to be found, and the Skrull who infiltrated the FF isn't just any Skrull, it's Johnny's ex, Lyja. Forget worldwide domination, hell hath no fury like a Skrull scorned...

Possible spoilers in the June Marvel solicitations (FF/Secret Invasion/"Who's the Skrull?")

Looks like the Skrull is Sue based on the attached description
http://marvel.com/comics/onsale/covers/uploaded/0.476236001205851488image_small.jpg (javascript:MM_openBrWindow('/comics/onsale/lib/view2.htm?filename=/comics/onsale/covers/0608/SECINVAFF002.jpg','_blank','scrollbars=yes,resizab le=yes'))
Rating: RATED A SECRET INVASION: FANTASTIC FOUR # 2 (http://marvel.com/catalog/?id=8939)
The Story: Part Two [of Three]: "He's Just Not That Into You"
Trapped in the Negative Zone with Franklin and Val, beseiged by monsters, Ben and Johnny are scrambling to get back home before a cosmic anomoly with the power to consume, well, everything swallows Manhattan. But the team's biggest brain, Reed Richards, is nowhere to be found, and the Skrull who infiltrated the FF isn't just any Skrull, it's Johnny's ex, Lyja. Forget worldwide domination, hell hath no fury like a Skrull scorned...

Seems like Sue being a Skrull is pretty much a given then. I could see her having been replaced right after Heroes Reborn.

Has anyone brought up the possibility of Norman Osborn being a Skrull?

Seems like Sue being a Skrull is pretty much a given then. I could see her having been replaced right after Heroes Reborn.

Has anyone brought up the possibility of Norman Osborn being a Skrull?

RE: FF


Yeah, pretty obvious. Disappointing, but I suppose it'll appease the fans who hated the portrayal during Civil War.

Come to think of it, if Namor is a Skrull, that's some odd timing.

And I still think it's weird that she'd work with the Mad Thinker considering their past and the stance that the Anti-Reg crowd had about working with the bad guys.


RE: N.O.


The cover to Thunderbolts suggests it. Someone mentioned it, but hated that it'd potentially wipe out an elevator scene with Peter and Norman that I missed :D

Has anyone brought up the possibility of Norman Osborn being a Skrull?

I think somebody mentioned it when the most recent Thunderbolts preview came out. I may be convinced of that, but I'd need more to work with.

Edit: Welp, too late on that one. I need to find that Norman/Peter elevator issue. Has anybody mentioned where that came from?

RE: FF


Yeah, pretty obvious. Disappointing, but I suppose it'll appease the fans who hated the portrayal during Civil War.

Come to think of it, if Namor is a Skrull, that's some odd timing.

And I still think it's weird that she'd work with the Mad Thinker considering their past and the stance that the Anti-Reg crowd had about working with the bad guys.


RE: N.O.


The cover to Thunderbolts suggests it. Someone mentioned it, but hated that it'd potentially wipe out an elevator scene with Peter and Norman that I missed :D


FF

That would be hillarious if Namor and Sue didn't know one another were actually Skrulls and both just go "Oh God DAMN IT!"

Norman Osborn

I'm really hoping this is the case. I never liked Norman coming back in the first place after Gwen's death. Having him be a Skrull, acting as a plant in the Thunderbolts would be great.

I think somebody mentioned it when the most recent Thunderbolts preview came out. I may be convinced of that, but I'd need more to work with.

Edit: Welp, too late on that one. I need to find that Norman/Peter elevator issue. Has anybody mentioned where that came from?

That was during the time when Mary Jane had "died" in the plane crash and Gwen Stacy's cousins or whatever were supporting characters.

That was during the time when Mary Jane had "died" in the plane crash and Gwen Stacy's cousins or whatever were supporting characters.

Oh Jesus, I remember this now. Good call, man. No wonder I never read it. ;) I dropped all comics in the issue they revealed the clone as the original.

That was during the time when Mary Jane had "died" in the plane crash and Gwen Stacy's cousins or whatever were supporting characters.

Nope. It happened about a year or so before. The "elevator" issue was pre-relaunch, when Osborn was pretty much making Spidey's life a living hell. Great issue.

I think Norman is real, but Harry is a Skrull.

Nope. It happened about a year or so before. The "elevator" issue was pre-relaunch, when Osborn was pretty much making Spidey's life a living hell. Great issue.

I think Norman is real, but Harry is a Skrull.

Regardless, I think the main question on everyone's mind now is:

Was the Norman who schtooped Gwen Stacy a Skrull?

:D

Regardless, I think the main question on everyone's mind now is:

Was the Norman who schtooped Gwen Stacy a Skrull?

:D

:lol:

Man, that choice keeps looking poorer.

Secret Invasion and tie-ins for June:

SECRET INVASION # 3
The Story: THE BLOCKBUSTER EVENT continues. Its Avenger versus Avenger. Hero versus hero! Norman Osborn versus Captain
Marvel?? The Initiative versus an army of Super-Skrulls? Is Tony Stark really a- -? And who's that guy with an eye patch coming to save the day?? And, oh man, who did he bring with him?
Cardstock Cover/Rated T+ …$3.99

MARVEL SPOTLIGHT: SECRET INVASION # 1
The Story: The infiltration is complete. The SECRET INVASION has begun. Who do you trust? Among the oldest baddies in the Marvel Universe, the Skrulls have decided that now is the time to strike. As the true extent of this infiltration is revealed, and the identities of the heroes the intergalactic shape-shifters have taken over are brought to light, the suspense will be palpable. MARVEL SPOTLIGHT celebrates this eight-part event by Brian Michael Bendis and Leinil Yu with an in-depth account of all things Skrull, featuring insider interviews with the creators involved in SECRET INVASION and its various crossover titles. We'll be criss-crossing Marvel history to tie together all the intrigue and plot twists that will make SECRET INVASION the comics event of the
summer! You can trust us on that. You do trust us, don't you?
Rated T+ …$2.99

SECRET INVASION: RUNAWAYS/YOUNG AVENGERS # 1
The Story: The Skrulls are invading and the Runaways and the Young Avengers both have a Skrull on their team. Coincidence? We think not. You two favorite teen teams come together again as the Marvel U is pushed to the brink.
Rated T+ …$2.99

SECRET INVASION: FANTASTIC FOUR # 2
The Story: Part Two [of Three]: "He's Just Not That Into You"
Trapped in the Negative Zone with Franklin and Val, beseiged by monsters, Ben and Johnny are scrambling to get back home before a cosmic anomoly with the power to consume, well, everything swallows Manhattan. But the team's biggest brain, Reed Richards, is nowhere to be found, and the Skrull who infiltrated the FF isn't just any Skrull, it's Johnny's ex, Lyja. Forget worldwide domination, hell hath no fury like a Skrull scorned...
Rated A …$2.99

SECRET INVASION: WHO DO YOU TRUST? # 1
The Story: SECRET INVASION One-Shot!
Five stories from across the Marvel Universe, illuminating key elements of the SECRET INVASION! Captain Marvel takes a stand! Marvel Boy makes a choice! Wonder Man and the Beast face off! Abigail Brand, Agent of SWORD finds the foe! And the Agents of Atlas enter the fight!
Rated T+ …$3.99

INCREDIBLE HERCULES # 118
The Story: A SECRET INVASION TIE-IN!
The "SACRED INVASION" continues! In order for Hercules and his divine allies to attack the realm of the Skrull gods, they first must pass out of our own Earthly pantheons -- with a fear-fraught voyage through the dimension of NIGHTMARE! What could possibly terrify a god? The Dark Lord of Dreams knows -- and he'll use it to destroy the last, best hope of stopping the Skrull invasion before it even starts!
Rated A …$2.99

MIGHTY AVENGERS # 15
The Story: SECRET INVASION TIE-IN!
WHATEVER HAPPENED TO-----? Rewinding the clock to Avengers Dissassembled we reveal how one of the main players in SECRET INVASION was replaced by a Skrull and what the fallout has been. A major SECRET INVASION chapter is here! Oh, but you want to know exactly who we're talking about right? Spoilers, dude!
Rated A …$2.99

AVENGERS: THE INITIATIVE # 14
The Story: SECRET INVASION TIE-IN
"We Have Met the Enemy and He Is Us!"
During the INFILTRATION, a Skrull at the heart of the Camp Hammond said these words: "It won't be long until we have a Skrull in every state! "Now that Skrull stands revealed and the fate of The Initiative, the United States, and Planet Earth hang in the balance. Plus: Former Avenger, Delroy Garret, assumes the mantle and arsenal of Earth's greatest Skrull-Hunter, THE 3-D MAN. He's here to chew bubblegum and kick some Skrull-@$$. And he's all out of bubblegum.
Rated T+ …$2.99

MS. MARVEL # 28
The Story: The SECRET INVASION is here and the Battle for Manhattan has begun. Earth's heroes have been scattered, New York City is under siege and only one hero is left to stand up for humanity -- Carol Danvers -- going to war. All of the frustrations, drama and insecurities of Ms. Marvel's life lead up to this as she takes on an invading horde of Super-Skrulls...and don’t put money on anyone green getting out alive!
Rated T+ …$2.99

NEW AVENGERS # 42
The Story: SECRET INVASION Tie-In!
THE EMPIRE part 3. For 42 issues readers of New Avengers have wondered, who caused the breakout in New Avengers #1 and why? And how was this the real start of the SECRET INVASION? Find out right here!! Special guest artist Jim Cheung returns to these pages for this shocking story.
Rated A …$2.99
And the covers:

http://marvel.com/comics/onsale/covers/0608/SINVASION003.jpg

http://marvel.com/comics/onsale/covers/0608/MARV_SPOT_SI.jpg

http://marvel.com/comics/onsale/covers/0608/SINVARUNAYAVEN001.jpg

http://marvel.com/comics/onsale/covers/0608/SECINVAFF002.jpg

http://marvel.com/comics/onsale/covers/0608/SECRETTRUST.jpg

http://marvel.com/comics/onsale/covers/0608/HERC118.jpg

http://marvel.com/comics/onsale/covers/0608/AVN_THEINT_14.jpg

http://marvel.com/comics/onsale/covers/0608/MSMARVEL_28.jpg

http://marvel.com/comics/onsale/covers/0608/NEWAVENGERS042.jpg

Wow, Mighty Avengers #15 is going to go back to Avengers Disassembled. I wonder who could have been replaced then?

Wow, Mighty Avengers #15 is going to go back to Avengers Disassembled. I wonder who could have been replaced then?

Popular theory is:


Janet/Wasp. Especially how it set off Wanda and how it contrasted to earlier appearances.

Wow, Mighty Avengers #15 is going to go back to Avengers Disassembled. I wonder who could have been replaced then?

I'm guessing Beast

Popular theory is:


Janet/Wasp. Especially how it set off Wanda and how it contrasted to earlier appearances.


Oh. Yeah! That works.

RE: FF


Yeah, pretty obvious. Disappointing, but I suppose it'll appease the fans who hated the portrayal during Civil War.

Come to think of it, if Namor is a Skrull, that's some odd timing.

And I still think it's weird that she'd work with the Mad Thinker considering their past and the stance that the Anti-Reg crowd had about working with the bad guys.


RE: N.O.


The cover to Thunderbolts suggests it. Someone mentioned it, but hated that it'd potentially wipe out an elevator scene with Peter and Norman that I missed :D


"Someone?" Why I outta....:-x

;)

So from these solicitations, we can pretty much confirm two Skrulls in disguise:

Sue Storm and Norman Osborn

I can't wait to see where the latter was switched out. I'm guessing right after their "resurrection".

Like I said earlier, the cover to Thunderbolts they unveiled is the cover to Thunderbolts #121, which is written by Warren Ellis and has nothing to do with Secret Invasion. The book won't start tying into SI until #122.

omg FF

omg sue being a skrull would be the perfect F u to mr fantastic. basically you ignore your wife so much you didnt know she got replaced by an alien. the story there is perfect.

the longer the better that she has been gone to make him feel worse.

Like I said earlier, the cover to Thunderbolts they unveiled is the cover to Thunderbolts #121, which is written by Warren Ellis and has nothing to do with Secret Invasion. The book won't start tying into SI until #122.

Well considering the fact that Norman Osborn seems to be a major player in Secret Invasion from the solicits, I'm betting he's a skrull.

Man.


This event has pulled me right back into comics.

What a genius idea.

omg FF

omg sue being a skrull would be the perfect F u to mr fantastic. basically you ignore your wife so much you didnt know she got replaced by an alien. the story there is perfect.

the longer the better that she has been gone to make him feel worse.

Very true.

Kinda why I was hoping it was Franklin. Aside from the whole denying him his progeny thing and the relatively lack of aging he had done until Valeria came along.

The question everyone should be asking is.. where's Reed?

Is he a step ahead (ala Fury?) Is he obsessed about the missing person? Has he been captured/defeated? Or is he in some field somewhere munching on some grass?

PS - Is there a pattern here?


Replacing spouses?

Janet (or Hank) -- one of these two HAVE to be a Skrull
Storm
Black Bolt
Sue

omg FF

omg sue being a skrull would be the perfect F u to mr fantastic. basically you ignore your wife so much you didnt know she got replaced by an alien. the story there is perfect.

the longer the better that she has been gone to make him feel worse.

If I had to guess, if we're going short term: I'd say it was right around when she returned from Civil War. Because that never sat right with me that she just came back after the "Clor" disaster

If I had to say long term: I'm betting right around that time where everybody thought Reed was dead, the Thing was wearing a helmet, etc etc. Actually this would work perfectly because Black Bolt was heavily involved with the FF at this time and could have easily done the old switcharoo, although it would be quite a shock if the skrulls had just killed her the first chance they got once they replaced her.

If I had to guess, if we're going short term: I'd say it was right around when she returned from Civil War. Because that never sat right with me that she just came back after the "Clor" disaster

If I had to say long term: I'm betting right around that time where everybody thought Reed was dead, the Thing was wearing a helmet, etc etc. Actually this would work perfectly because Black Bolt was heavily involved with the FF at this time and could have easily done the old switcharoo, although it would be quite a shock if the skrulls had just killed her the first chance they got once they replaced her.

Weird potential storyline:

What if rather than kill her, they scarred her or disfigured her somehow?

It'd be like the whole Ms. Marvel/She-Thing angle, with the added bonus of her being able to turn invisible to hide from people. How difficult would it be to deal with someone suffering from that who can hide any time you try to help or talk to them?

It'd be a constant reminder that Reed would see every day to remind him of his failure.. kinda like Doom's scarring is a reminder of his failure.


Probably too dark :D And besides, it wouldn't mesh with what Millar is doing over in his book.

Weird potential storyline:

What if rather than kill her, they scarred her or disfigured her somehow?

It'd be like the whole Ms. Marvel/She-Thing angle, with the added bonus of her being able to turn invisible to hide from people. How difficult would it be to deal with someone suffering from that who can hide any time you try to help or talk to them?

It'd be a constant reminder that Reed would see every day to remind him of his failure.. kinda like Doom's scarring is a reminder of his failure.


Probably too dark :D And besides, it wouldn't mesh with what Millar is doing over in his book.

Less she become Mrs. DOOM!

.....ok that prolly ain't happening.

I can't wait to see Nick Fury return. Definitely one of the most exciting things about this series for me.

I can't wait to see Nick Fury return. Definitely one of the most exciting things about this series for me.

Yeah, he has been gone a really long time hasn't he? What's it been like 3 years our time?

I can't wait to see Nick Fury return. Definitely one of the most exciting things about this series for me.

Me too man.

Plus it's drawn by MALEEV. How rad is that?

And I'm pretty interested in who the new Howlin' Commandos are.

My guesses?

Daisy Johnson, and possibly the Skrull Kill Krew.

I can't wait to see Nick Fury return. Definitely one of the most exciting things about this series for me.
tell me about it.
fingers crossed to see Greg Rucka writing a Nick Fury series someday...;-)

tell me about it.
fingers crossed to see Greg Rucka writing a Nick Fury series someday...;-)

Isn't Bendis and Maleev's Spider-woman supposed to basically be a SHIELD book?

Looks like Norman Osborn is going to don the cape!

Me too man.

Plus it's drawn by MALEEV. How rad is that?

And I'm pretty interested in who the new Howlin' Commandos are.

My guesses?

Daisy Johnson, and possibly the Skrull Kill Krew.


That's a really good guess. Either way, I bet the female character you mentioned is one of the only people Fury trusts and has been his mole for a while now.

Isn't Bendis and Maleev's Spider-woman supposed to basically be a SHIELD book?

yeah, you're right....and I cannot wait,btw.:D
but I really would like to see a S.H.I.E.L.D.'s black Ops story by Rucka someday...:)

Hey there guys, can someone help me a little something. I was rereading illuminati #5 and I'm still a little confused as to what Iron Man did to take down "Avengers Skrull" and "X-Men Skrull". Did he blow a nuclear power stations reactor or did he send a nuclear bomb to his position, or maybe something else?

Could some please clear this up for me.

Hey there guys, can someone help me a little something. I was rereading illuminati #5 and I'm still a little confused as to what Iron Man did to take down "Avengers Skrull" and "X-Men Skrull". Did he blow a nuclear power stations reactor or did he send a nuclear bomb to his position, or maybe something else?

Could some please clear this up for me.

I just answered in the other thread. :thumb:

Me too man.

Plus it's drawn by MALEEV. How rad is that?

And I'm pretty interested in who the new Howlin' Commandos are.

My guesses?

Daisy Johnson, and possibly the Skrull Kill Krew.


The Kill Krew aren't part of that they're dead remember?. And as for the Iron Man takes down Skrulls thing his armor gets stronger the more energy he siphons. He siphoned so much energy from the nuclear energy plant that's how he was able to cause that huge explosion.

The Kill Krew aren't part of that they're dead remember?. And as for the Iron Man takes down Skrulls thing

Says who?

Says who?

For reasons I can't tell you :D

I might pick up that issue of Initiative to see how they're updating 3-D Man.
That's pulling out an old idea could prove damn useful against the invasion.

Wait a minute, are people saying
Osbourne's
a Skrull because of the SI #3 solicit?

If so, I say no way.

Well considering the fact that Norman Osborn seems to be a major player in Secret Invasion from the solicits, I'm betting he's a skrull.

Nope. I'll bet ya.

Sorry if this has been said before, but I haven't been keeping up with this thread, and this popped into my head while reading through the start of New Avengers.

After the Raft breakout, Tony is comparing the list of villains incarcerated there to the old Avengers database, and reveals that a chunk of the villains there were previously thought to be deceased. I don't think there was ever a full list. With so many considering any who's come back from the dead as a likely canidate, what are the chances for all of those on the 'deceased' list be Skrulls?

Could the escape of Sauron be a front for springing the rest of their bretheren? Sorry if this has been mentioned before, as I know its from a fairly older tale.

Wait a minute, are people saying
Osbourne's
a Skrull because of the SI #3 solicit?

If so, I say no way.


http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/showpost.php?p=4421306&postcount=1524

http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/showpost.php?p=4421306&postcount=1524

That cover has nothing to do with SI. How many times must that be explained.

The SI #3 solicit makes it perfectly clear you-know-who isn't a Skrull.

Check out the spoilers!


███████████████ ███ ██████ Morrison █████. ██ █████████ ██████████ Skrull ███████, ███ █████ ████ ████████ █████████ █ █████. ███ Wolverine ████ ███████ ███.███████████████ ███ ██████ Avengers █████. ██ █████████ ██████████ Skrulls ███████, ███ █████ ████ ████████ █████████ █ █████. ███ Jessica ████ ███████ ███.

███████████████ ███ ██████ Dr. Strange █████. ██ █████████ ██████████ ███████, ███ Mark Millar █████ ████ ████████ █████████ █ █████. ███ Brian Reed ████ ███████ ███.

████████████ ██████ Matt Fraction █████████. ██████████████████ a single day! ██████████

That cover has nothing to do with SI. How many times must that be explained.

The SI #3 solicit makes it perfectly clear you-know-who isn't a Skrull.

a bunch more until it is in hands i guess.

Bendis confirms there's going to be a ten page preview of SI #1 on EW next week. (http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/showthread.php?t=145264)

Holy shit, I would love for Osborne to be a Skrull.

Holy shit, I would love for Osborne to be a Skrull.

God, I would HATE it.

(but he's not, so there. :-x)

Bendis confirms there's going to be a ten page preview of SI #1 on EW next week. (http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/showthread.php?t=145264)

I thought it was on the 36th?

I thought it was on the 36th?

That's on the Skrull calendar.

All this time wasted guessing and speculating. Why even waste time with spoiler tags? It's so obvious. Everything old is new again. Bendis is bringing back his 70s idols just so he can feel revolutionary. Sorry, but Skrulls are not new and neither is this story.

Why am I doing this? Because I can and because you deserve to know. And Bendis is a hack who shouldn't be in charge of events. After House of Meh we trust him with another one?! Makes NO sense!!!

All this time wasted guessing and speculating. Why even waste time with spoiler tags? It's so obvious. Everything old is new again. Bendis is bringing back his 70s idols just so he can feel revolutionary. Sorry, but Skrulls are not new and neither is this story.

Why am I doing this? Because I can and because you deserve to know. And Bendis is a hack who shouldn't be in charge of events. After House of Meh we trust him with another one?! Makes NO sense!!!

....right....

the reason i do not comment pro or con you is because i'm not giving you one once of cred. i'll be up at marvel in three weeks. i'd love to meet you.

All this time wasted guessing and speculating. Why even waste time with spoiler tags? It's so obvious. Everything old is new again. Bendis is bringing back his 70s idols just so he can feel revolutionary. Sorry, but Skrulls are not new and neither is this story.

Why am I doing this? Because I can and because you deserve to know. And Bendis is a hack who shouldn't be in charge of events. After House of Meh we trust him with another one?! Makes NO sense!!!

1) Skrulls are from the 60s. The only 70s "idols" he's brought in are Luke Cage, Iron Fist, and Spider-Woman far as I know.

2) Skrulls have done the whole infiltration shtick before but never on this level that they've replaced a good amount of heroes and leaders.

3) This event has had 5 years of buildup unlike House of M which only had buildup from Disassembled so they've had more time to make it smooth and choose what they want to do with it.

4) You say you can do things better then guys like Bendis or Reed can you actually tell us what you would do instead of boasting and talking shit about them?

Also what do you mean by everything old is new again. You act like you know everything that's going to happen yet you're not bothering to give us a clue as to what "you see" that we don't.

The House of MEH! Haha.

oh, and i love the crash and burn. i'll give you that. its glorious. about ten people figured out who you were today. show up for work tomorrow. i dare you.

oh, and i love the crash and burn. i'll give you that. its glorious. about ten people figured out who you were today. show up for work tomorrow. i dare you.

He seriously works at Marvel? I thought it was strange that he had a page from New Avengers #41 but I thought it was already one seen on the internet so I didn't think much of it.

Is Marvel going to go apeshit I wonder?

Isn't it great to make the puppet dance?

Thanks for playing :D

I got a spoiler I wanted, and you got caught. Great day! And you fell for it too :D

oh, and i love the crash and burn. i'll give you that. its glorious. about ten people figured out who you were today. show up for work tomorrow. i dare you.

Holy shit.

For real, Bendis? This dude actually works there?

:rofl:

Isn't it great to make the puppet dance?

Thanks for playing :D

I got a spoiler I wanted, and you got caught. Great day! And you fell for it too :D

Did he actually ever reveal anything?

the reason i do not comment pro or con you is because i'm not giving you one once of cred. i'll be up at marvel in three weeks. i'd love to meet you.

Thanks for the warning. I'll leave the building to make room for your ego.

Did he actually ever reveal anything?

Theoretically if the LJ is true.

If true, it confirmed one guess of mine :)

Either way, looking forward to tomorrow.

Holy shit.

For real, Bendis? This dude actually works there?

:rofl:

kinda. thats all i'll say

oh, and i love the crash and burn. i'll give you that. its glorious. about ten people figured out who you were today. show up for work tomorrow. i dare you.

Nice bluff. I'm in the building and you're a continent away. No one knows who I am. YOU'll be fired before me after SI flops

Thanks for the warning. I'll leave the building to make room for your ego.

From your own "blog" in regards to Bendis:

Honestly, he seems like an OK guy. I met him when he was up here. He's not an asshole like the guy he was with...

Come on.

If you're gonna be a complete dick, at least be consistent.

Thanks for the warning. I'll leave the building to make room for your ego.

Is there a reason you piss on everyone at Marvel? I mean even if you have a grunt job and not a writer's job there is a way to work up to a bigger position.
That is how guys like Dan Slott got in after all :).

Although then again Dan Slott didn't bitch and moan how he could do everything better then everyone else. The only ego I see in the room is you and maybe Bendis' slightly larger ego :lol:

kinda. thats all i'll say

Everyone work on your resumes.

kinda. thats all i'll say

Fair enough.

I just really didn't believe it. Although now I am kinda pissed I read that spoiler.

Goddamn douchenozzle.

Fair enough.

I just really didn't believe it. Although now I am kinda pissed I read that spoiler.

Goddamn douchenozzle.
Um I don't even know if that was a spoiler. We'll just have to see how that applies when SI comes out. I suspect if he did reveal anything compromising Marvel is going to be pissed :\.

Everyone work on your resumes.

Pat(sadly)NotLoika
-no experience
-kinda lazy
-but not a delusional clownshoe

Looks like I'm more qualified. Maybe I got a shot.

Oy, sucks that the thread has now been hijacked by drama.

From your own "blog" in regards to Bendis:

Honestly, he seems like an OK guy. I met him when he was up here. He's not an asshole like the guy he was with...

Come on.

If you're gonna be a complete dick, at least be consistent.


Good first impression does not a good writer make. After reading SI, I have ZERO respect for him.

Oy, sucks that the thread has now been hijacked by drama.

Other Board Drama perhaps?

oy.

Um I don't even know if that was a spoiler. We'll just have to see how that applies when SI comes out. I suspect if he did reveal anything compromising Marvel is going to be pissed :\.

I'm talking about his livejournal.

If you haven't looked at it lately, don't. There's a pretty big (potential) spoiler there.

Nice bluff. I'm in the building and you're a continent away. No one knows who I am. YOU'll be fired before me after SI flops

I know who you are.

You're someone who's so desperate for validation that you'll walk into any trap to prove you're connected.

I mean, c'mon, really.. anyone with any intelligence would have played it cool a few days. But nooo, you gotta post a pic that gets removed.. then you try to spoil some plot points which should make it even easier to track you down.

It's great knowing that all it takes to make you jump is to question your connections.

Next time we ask you to jump, don't worry about asking how high, we'll tell you. :)

Good first impression does not a good writer make. After reading SI, I have ZERO respect for him.

You do realize comics are fictional right? It's just to have fun not to bitch and moan about. If you don't want to read SI fine but that's no reason to say that he's an asshole and you have no respect for him or whatnot.

There are people who's stories I don't like but still find cool in person.

Nice bluff. I'm in the building and you're a continent away. No one knows who I am. YOU'll be fired before me after SI flops

I don't care if I get another infraction point for this but you gotta be fucking retarded if you think Secret Invasion is going to flop. Fucking retarded.

oy.

Best thing you've ever written.

Oy, sucks that the thread has now been hijacked by drama.

No one gave me anything when I mentioned the escaped Raft criminals who were listed as dead were good canidates for Skrulls. Next time I'm going to start a livejournal and then people will listen to me, dammit!

No one gave me anything when I mentioned the escaped Raft criminals who were listed as dead were good canidates for Skrulls. Next time I'm going to start a livejournal and then people will listen to me, dammit!

Just say you work at Marvel next time, and tell us everything sucks unless you're writing it.

i'm done with this. keep bashing me and youre gone. final warning

Best thing you've ever written.

Given an entire day, I'm sure you could come up with something better, right?

If only you had ONE MORE DAY.

And I'm not talking about getting a pink slip :D

I don't care if I get another infraction point for this but you gotta be fucking retarded if you think Secret Invasion is going to flop. Fucking retarded.

For all we know those two pages could be the only good pages in the book:lol:

And I read that spoiler can't believe I did that. MARVEL BOY MUST DIE!

Just say you work at Marvel next time, and tell us everything sucks unless you're writing it.

It does suck!

I CAN FIX IT!

(okay, I'll stop, I don't wanna be thrown in the klink too)

It does suck!

I CAN FIX IT!

(okay, I'll stop, I don't wanna be thrown in the klink too)

Easy big fella.

Easy big fella.

So.... Skrulls, huh?

So.... Skrulls, huh?

They're everywhere. My mom's a Skrull.

i'm done with this. keep bashing me and youre gone. final warning


I don't need to bash you. Your "work" will bash you enough.

See you in 3 weeks. I'll be the one smiling behind your back.

I think the one good thing we can get out of this is that we finally know that Bendis reads the thread. Yay for validation. :D:D:D:D

wow... did I click the right topic or what? I always miss out on these big deals.

but yeah, this dude seems like a total asshat... and I don't think it's going to be THAT hard to find out who he is.

I don't need to bash you. Your "work" will bash you enough.

See you in 3 weeks. I'll be the one smiling behind your back.

You do realize you're not the majority opinion of the world right?

Yup.

For those that read the LJ post.. can we make a point not to discuss that until SI hits?

Yup.

For those that read the LJ post.. can we make a point not to discuss that until SI hits?

Agreed.

I think the one good thing we can get out of this is that we finally know that Bendis reads the thread. Yay for validation. :D:D:D:D

Well, to be fair, I checked the board on a whim, and saw the name Marvelb0y posting in this thread and I knew why.

Like I said, it's great manipulating the weak minded :D

Yup.

For those that read the LJ post.. can we make a point not to discuss that until SI hits?

Hell yes. We're not ruining it for anyone UNLIKE CERTAIN PEOPLE. :)

I know a couple of secrets about SI myself. I bet our dear Marvel Boy doesn't know which one it is :).

Yeah, please no discussion of spoilers, real or not. Maybe I should put that in the first post.

Yeah, please no discussion of spoilers, real or not. Maybe I should put that in the first post.

I doubt anyone will see it there. Can you put it in the topic title?

he didn't spoil anything. trust me. i can tell he hasn't read it.

I refuse to read that LJ. I spit on it.

he didn't spoil anything. trust me. i can tell he hasn't read it.

Have you?

Well, just in case I'm trying to locate the thread in the archives so I can archive it if something bad happens :D

So can we expect Marvel Boy to die at the end of SI now? =)

yeah, thats what i thought. ok.

this is like a guy you'd find online in 1998.

So can we expect Marvel Boy to die at the end of SI now? =)

well, his career will be over :)

If anyone else wants to archive it:
http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/archive/index.php/t-126556.html

Just save the html pages.

Man, that guy doesn't really get that what he's doing is just in bad taste. Regardless of whether you want to work in comics or not, you're being a jerk. No one will ever want to work with you, no matter how good you think your ideas are or how good they may actually be. The way you describe Bendis and other writers/staff members at Marvel seems smack of how you wish you were treated, given that you could fix characters and concepts in a single day.

This is utterly ridiculous. You're working at Marvel and no matter how much that may suck, there are definitely much, much worse places to be.

I doubt anyone will see it there. Can you put it in the topic title?

No can do. Can't edit thread titles this far in.