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August 15, 2003
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Well, here we are again, kiddies. Back for another edition of The Hippocratic Skinny with your dirty Uncle Doc and VC the commie bastard!
Now, first things first. I have to apologise for the delay since our last column. See, I went on a bit of a holiday, and as it happened I spent practically three whole weeks away from the computer. So that’s all my writing time gone. And then there’s the fact that VC’s a lazy bastard. But let’s not get into that, kiddies. So, in summary…it’s all his fault!
And so, to quote the greatest detective of all time…all righty then! Let’s get down to bidnezz (shut up, Gates!), kiddies. I’m sure you’re wondering what rancid, worm-infested intellectual feast we have for your mental plates today? Annnnnnd…it’s a goodie. Scout’s honour. I can tell you right now, this one’s gonna take us all the way from Controversial Lite™ (or Bitchy Lite™, if you believed VC’s last rant) to full bore Controversial. But to do it justice I’m afraid I’m going to have to get a little serious here, kiddies. Sorry ‘bout that.
This week’s topic for discussion is…
“ARE WRITERS MORE IMPORTANT THAN ARTISTS?”
Yes. Next question?
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Ooooh, I can feel the hate all the way from over here.
Right, before every artist in comicdom goes into meltdown, lets just have a listen to what’s led me to this belief, shall we?
In the past I’ve spent a lot of time on comic message boards. I don’t get around quite as much as I used to (damn day-job!), but that’s neither here nor there. Let me tell you, if you ever spend any amount of time on a board that wannabe comic creators frequent, there’s one topic that you’re absolutely, no question, guaranteed to run across, and that’s whether or not wannabe artists should be paid for working on a wannabe writer’s comic (with the not always implicit implication that wannabe writers shouldn’t be paid for working on a wannabe artist’s comic). I’ve seen screaming rants and well-reasoned arguments on the subject, but you can basically break down the arguments to one of two POVs: either amateur artists should be paid because there’s a greater investment of time and materials on their part and without artists there wouldn’t be a comic; or amateur artists shouldn’t be paid because there’s just as much effort involved in the creative process and without writers there wouldn’t be a comic. Now, before anyone starts getting worked up, let me just say that not everyone on the “artists should always be paid” side is an artist, and not everyone on the other is a writer.
Now breathe easy - I won’t be inflicting my own opinion on you, as that’s not the point (though let me just add that when I had an idea not so long ago and I wasn’t prepared to spend months (if not years) trying to find an artist who’d work for a promise, I put money down on the table. Worked for me). I’m not here to argue who should and shouldn’t be getting paid in an amateur production, or who puts in more work, or who has a tougher job, or anything like that. The fact is that this topic, which I’ve seen bandied around so often, got me thinking about the creative process and led me to the inescapable conclusion that in the field of comics, writers are simply more important than artists.
Let’s examine the proposition. On the one hand we have the artists, who illustrate, ink, colour and letter the comic. They put together the artwork that tells the story. They use their talents to illustrate the action and hook the eye and draw the readers into the world of the comic. And that, I’ll tell anyone who asks me, is a very, very important job. The cold, hard fact is that, without the artists, there is no comic.
But there’s one thing in a comic that’s more important than all that, and that’s story. Without a story, all that lovely art is nothing more than a pile of disconnected pictures. Without a good story, no matter how pretty the art is, a comic isn’t going to last. (Of course, bad art can kill a comic, too, but in my experience bad writing will kill it a lot faster. Hey, I’ve heard it said more than once that Vertigo survives on fantastic writing and bad art.) And an exceptional story can elevate a comic to the status of a legend. Would Watchmen (or V for Vendetta or many of his other works) have been Watchmen (or V for Vendetta etc. etc.) without Alan Moore? Would Transmetropolitan (or The Authority, or Planetary, the first twelve issues of which I’ve just finished re-reading - sooweeeeet!) have been Transmet (or…well, you know) without Warren Ellis? Neil Gaiman and Sandman. Garth Ennis and Preacher. Frank Miller and The Dark Knight Returns (though would TDKR have been TDKR without his art as well as his writing? Interesting point, and I’ll be returning to that). And there are so many other examples where, while the artists have helped to shape the story and give it life, it has been the story, the core vision of the writer, which has made the comic truly special. It’s the same in movies, TV, prose, poetry, whatever. The execution can take many forms, but at the heart of it you must have a story (preferably a good one), or you’ve got nothing. Well, nothing, or reality TV.
But what about someone like Frank Miller, you ask, someone who’s both writer and artist? Well, that’s where it gets interesting. See, I have to confession to make. I don’t really believe that writers are, by definition, more important than artists. I believe that storytellers are more important than, shall we say, “pure artists”. A storyteller can simply be a writer, or they can be both artist or writer, or they can even just be an artist, because the best artists really do tell a story. And it’s possible to be a writer and not be a storyteller - but that’s a thorny one, so let’s put it aside for today. If you’re not creating the story, though, no matter how good you are, you’re just a cog in the machine. I’ve seen artists like that. They can be technically perfect and draw wonderfully emotive pictures, but without a sense of direction and a feel for the flow of a story, they’re just not going to cut the mustard (unless they find an accommodating writer who’ll tell them exactly what to do, of course). That’s why books on creating comics - the good ones, like Will Eisner’s and Scott McCloud’s and Denny O’Neil’s - emphasise storytelling so much. That’s why when editors look at art submissions, they want to see sequentials, not pin-ups.
So there you have it. The most important element of a comic is the story - and thus the most important person in the process is the one who creates that story, be it writer, artist, or whoever. Really, when we get down to it, all of us have contributions to make, and they’re all important. It’s just that if you’re not a storyteller, mine’s more important than yours. Heh.
Who's your fucking huckleberry, kiddies?!
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Well, if I can say anything, it’s that Doc sure knows how to pick a topic that’s neither here nor there in regards to finding a concrete resolution. This question, “Is the artist or the writer more important,” is as old as the bi-plane…the Model-T…or Carrot Top’s routine. So Doc thinks that writers are more vital to the comic’s creation than the artist, huh? I could take his side as well, seeing as I’m a writer and the furthest thing from an artist that you can get, but the purpose of this column is to get opposing views, and THAT’S what yer gonna get.
Writers create the story, true. Artists follow the guidelines of the writer’s story to create the paneled medium known as comics, true. But I think where Doc, and some others stumble in this debate, is that the debate is usually held in online message boards where every starving artist and writer is lurking, waiting for the day they can emerge as the next superstar. The debate is held by frustrated amateurs, pros already in the business, publishers and the occasional hacks that think they can write columns about comic books. However, I think the level of examination needs to be brought down a peg. Let’s put it bluntly here “kiddies”. Who really gives a shit who is more “important” here? Pro and wanna-be writers? Pro and wanna-be artists? The debate is VERY biased, if you ask me.
How about we ask the fans? The comic-talentless readers. The legions of readers that actually plunk down the cash to read what all these bickering pros and amateurs debate over as to who did what and how better it was to this and that. Every fan has his/her favorite artist, and they’ll have their favorite writers. Just because Alan Moore is one of the most renowned writers in the biz doesn’t mean he outshines the amateur artist chosen to illustrate his story…to the average comic book reader. I’m not talking the wanna-be pro who’s reading comics waiting for the day they too can break in and I’m not talking about the comic shop operators who spend all day buried in the pages of their favorite books every day, both of which are usually chock full of opinions they believe is ultimately right since they devote their petty lives to comic pages.
{Begin Tangent}
No, I’m talking about the FANS here. The people who don’t care which writer has the biggest chip on their shoulder, which artist is demanding more money for pages or which publisher is in litigation with the next. Believe it or not, there really ARE people out there who read comics who don’t aspire to one day BE in the industry. They just want their comics, man. And they don’t care WHO brings it to them. They want to read about Batman…Spider-Man…Lenore…Han Solo…The Hulk…The X-Men…y’know, the REAL stars of the comic books. I think this industry already has WAY too many egotistical assholes running around and sapping up all the work. This is my word to the newbies out there. The ones that one day want to BE the next Andy Kubert or Chris Claremont. DON’T JOIN IN THE MELTING POT OF EGOTISTICAL ASSHOLES! Remember who you are and remember why you love comics. It’s for the CHARACTERS.
{End Tangent}
Sorry. D’ya SEE how touchy of a subject this is??? It gets even ME riled up, and according to Doc above, I’m a “lazy bastard” and shouldn’t be so out of sorts. But my little “side-tangent-rant” has a supportive point. A point that shows who, in the end, to the FANS, is really the most important in the creative process. To the kid out there who doesn’t WANT to be a pro someday. Who doesn’t WANT to know about an artist’s favorite album to listen to while drawing. Who doesn’t WANT to know which temperamental writer they can and can’t approach at a convention. They just want the flashy pictures and someone to put some words into the mouths of those that they call “heroes.” And with that I give to you…………Image Comics.
Y’see…when Image Comics first stepped into the ring with the two Big Dawgs of comic publication, everyone said they would fail. Why? Well, what did a bunch of upstart, know-it-all, cocky artists know about creating comics…comics that read well? It’s not like they took the time or consideration to think to draft a few top WRITERS along with them. Nope. It was just a bunch of artists who said “screw it…I have some ideas and these guys won’t own them.” And what did they do? I do believe, if memory serves, that they created the HOTTEST selling books at the time. Those books put them on the map. Fans gobbled them up by the MILLIONS. Millions, folks. A top selling book today sells a few hundred thousand, if THAT. These guys bought houses, exotic sports cars and anything else instant success stories can offer. Most importantly, they bought all of YOU. They roped you into their whirlwind of action, adventure, torment, mysticism and flashy art and they did it without a SINGLE writer. THEY wrote their stories. Artists did. Sure, every critic and most fans today won’t admit that they HAD to have their first issues of “Brigade,” “Codename: Strykeforce,” “Freak Force,” and “AVENGELYNE”…sigh…but they DID. The fans didn’t care if the stories were bad or typical or a carbon copy of every other title out there. They just wanted it all, and these ARTISTS capitalized on it.
Comics are in a different market today. I can’t remember the last time I’ve seen a KID in the comic shops buying a comic book, and that is sad. Today your average comic reader looks more like 25 and not 15, so of course these more mature consumers will need a better story. But I can’t remember the last time comic shops were flooded and issues were sold out instantly because a writer wrote some fabulous tale. Jeph Loeb has been writing Batman forever and a day it seems, but it took Jim Lee’s arrival to stoke that title into the selling frenzy that it is in now. Jeph Loeb is also writing “Soulfire” for Aspen, Michael Turner’s new publishing venture, but I’m sure that title’s buzz right now has NOTHING to do with Michael Turner’s art. “Transformers” is still doing well, thanks to the fan-frenzy artwork, cuz it sure as hell ain’t the intriguing storylines, I’ll tell ya that much.
The artist can fake the writing, even if only for a while. A writer can’t “fake” illustration. True, creating a comic is a joint effort with both writer and artist to be top-notch in order to have a successful comic book. But then again, I’d say Image Comics was pretty damned successful in its beginning days. Days when artists ruled the comics world.
The VC-Cowboy
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| :. ABOUT DOC HOLIDAY |
Doc Holiday is the meanest, fastest, rootin'est, tootin'est gun north, south, east annnnnd WEST of the Pecos! Being a gambler, a womanizer, a thief and a drunkard all at the same time makes surgery an interesting proposition. Doc engages in shootouts, ambuscades, bushwackings, heading off at passes and jailbreaks during the week, but saves the weekends for pottery classes. Doc dreams of dying of consumption.
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Favorite Comics: 21 Down, 100 Bullets, Hawaiian Dick, Rex Mundi
Favorite Movies: X Men 2, Star Wars trilogy (original trilogy, damn it!), It Could Happen to You
Favorite Writers: Michael Stackpole, David Eddings, Raymond E. Feist, R. A. Salvatore
Favorite Sports: Cricket, American Football, Australian Rules Football, Rugby League, Baseball
Favorite Music: Evanescence, Lacuna Coil, Creed, Filter, Tonic
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VC was born and raised on the coasts of California,
and
now makes his bed in the whipping winds of Chicago.
He
currently writes the comics for Dungeons & Dragons
with his second series, "Where Shadows Fall", out this
July. He's more outspoken than he should be, more
brazen than his stature should allow, but
miraculaously has NEVER gotten his ass kicked for ANY
of it...yet.
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Favorite Comics: Fables, Batman ala Loeb/Lee
Favorite Movies: Last Of The Mohicans, The Crow, Lock/Stock/Smoking Barrels & Lord of the F-n Rings
Favorite TV Shows: Family Guy, The Shield, Invader Zim Favorite Music: Tool, Korn, Disturbed, Sister Machine Gun, Underworld &...oh yeah, TOOL.
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